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Thanks for sharing that! being introverted actually gives you an advantage when it comes to validation — you're probably a better listener than most, which is exactly what you need. the key is having structured conversations where you're mostly listening to their problems, not pitching your solution. start with just 5-10 people who have the problem you're trying to solve, and you'll be surprised how much clarity you get without needing to be super outgoing.

Glad you got unstuck! those initial setup steps can be confusing when you're first getting into it. once you get past the basics though, the whole system starts to click and you'll be flying through client setups

Yeah that pricing model can work but the challenge is most clients shopping for websites are price-sensitive and will bounce when they see $1k+ for what looks like "just a website." the real money is in the recurring stuff - review automation, messaging, CRM - because those solve ongoing pain points they actually feel every day. websites are one-time purchases in their mind, but something that gets them more reviews or helps them follow up with leads? that's worth paying for monthly because they see the roi immediately

Glad you got unstuck! those initial setup steps can be confusing when you're first diving in. once you get past this part the platform really starts to click and you'll be flying through everything else

Yeah that's totally viable, the main thing is you'd be competing with every other agency doing the exact same thing since ghl whitelabel is so accessible now. the real money comes from either going super niche (like only serving dentists or contractors) or having a unique angle on the service delivery. charging more works if you can justify it with better results or a more hands-off experience for the client, but at the end of the day you still need to differentiate somehow or you're just another ghl reseller

Great question! for domains i usually have clients buy them directly in their own name (like through namecheap or google domains) so they own it outright - keeps things cleaner legally and if they ever leave they don't have to transfer anything. for terms/conditions and privacy policies, definitely include them especially if you're collecting any data through forms or running ads - there are free generators online that work pretty well for basic stuff, but if your client is in a regulated industry they might want a lawyer to review it.

Glad you found it helpful! the clarity framework really does make a difference when you're trying to explain what you do without losing people in the first 10 seconds. have you started applying any of this to your own messaging yet?

Glad you're taking action on it! that's really where the magic happens - most people watch and never implement. the follow-up texting piece is huge, especially if you're using real phone numbers instead of those automated systems with the weird footers. way better response rates when people feel like they're talking to an actual person

Been down this road a few times and honestly the strategy part is way more important than most people think. before you hire someone to execute, make sure they've actually done enterprise deals before (not just SMB stuff) because the sales cycles and messaging are completely different. also worth thinking through your lead follow-up process now - i've seen great campaigns fall apart because leads went cold while reps were manually texting back and forth or dealing with carrier filters blocking their messages.

Yeah i've had some weird glitches lately too, especially with workflows randomly stopping or triggers not firing. usually clearing cache and reconnecting integrations fixes it, but sometimes support has to reset something on their end. what kind of errors are you seeing?

Great question! bulk sending consent forms via text is definitely doable but you'll want to make sure you're using real phone numbers for P2P messaging instead of API-based systems. the key is personalization - even in bulk sends, each message should feel like it's coming from you directly to them, not some automated blast. if you set up a workflow that triggers personalized texts with the doc link based on a tag or list, it'll feel way more natural and your clients are more likely to actually open and sign. just avoid those generic mass text vibes that scream "marketing automation" lol

honestly the key is spacing and value - if you're following up every day yeah that's annoying, but if you space it out over weeks and each message adds something new (not just "hey checking in"), people rarely get mad. most folks are just busy and your message got buried, they're not sitting there counting how many times you reached out. i've had people respond positively on the 7th or 8th touch because that's when they finally had time to look at solutions

appreciate that man! honestly the setup part is where most people get stuck or overthink it, so i wanted to just show the essentials without the 30 minute intro haha. once you get past the initial config, the real game is in the follow-up systems and actually getting leads to respond consistently

honestly the tools matter way less than just being consistent and actually responding to people fast. i use basic stuff to capture leads from facebook/instagram and the biggest game changer was ditching those API-based messaging systems with all the spam footers. now i text leads from my actual phone number so it feels like a real conversation and people actually reply. way better response rates than when messages looked automated or had that "sent via business platform" nonsense at the bottom

honestly the tool matters way less than consistency and actually following up with people. i've seen car salespeople crush it just using instagram stories and texting leads from their personal number - no fancy software needed. the key is when someone comments or DMs you, you reply fast and keep the conversation going in their texts where they actually check messages, not buried in some crm they'll ignore.

honestly this is pushing everyone toward better practices anyway. yeah it means more work upfront but personalization was always the play - batch and blast is dead. instead of fighting email deliverability though, have you considered just texting leads from real phone numbers? no spam filters, no domain warmup, messages actually get seen. i switched most of my follow-up to p2p texting and it's way less headache than dealing with google's constant rule changes

nah not at all, but the game is definitely changing. what's dying is lazy spray-and-pray tactics — people can smell generic outreach from a mile away now. the winners in 2025 are the ones doing hyper-personalized outreach and actually following up fast when leads respond. if you're still treating lead gen like a numbers game without real engagement, then yeah you'll struggle, but done right it's more valuable than ever

nah lead generation isn't dying, it's just evolving. the old spray-and-pray methods are dead (cold calling random lists, generic mass emails), but targeted outreach still works incredibly well. the key now is personalization and using multiple channels together - like if you're doing cold email, follow up with a real text message from an actual phone number, not some automated API thing. people still need to buy stuff, you just gotta reach them in ways that feel human

yeah you can but heads up - those GHL numbers are typically twilio-based so they work fine for calling but if you're planning to text a lot, just know there's gonna be those A2P compliance footers that make messages look kinda spammy. for cold outreach calls though you should be good to go, just make sure you're following tcpa rules and stuff

yeah you can but heads up - those GHL numbers are usually toll-free or VOIP numbers which work fine for calls but if you're planning to text leads, they won't get the same response rates as texting from a regular local number. business owners are way more likely to engage when they see a normal area code texting them vs a toll-free number that screams "automated system"

congrats on getting that first paying customer, that's honestly the hardest part! for going from 1 to 10, the biggest thing that helped me was actually talking to that first customer constantly - like what made them buy, what almost stopped them, what they wish it did better. then i'd literally ask them if they knew anyone else with the same problem. sounds basic but those referrals and the insights from tweaking your pitch based on real feedback are gold for the next 9

that's awesome you're joining! the community is super active and honestly one of the best places to learn what's actually working right now vs what worked a few years ago. you'll get way more value from seeing what other people are testing in real time than just following old playbooks

yeah the whole "sell saas and make 10k mrr" thing got way oversaturated. everyone and their mom is pitching the same crm now and businesses are tired of it. the real opportunity is in solving specific problems with actual implementation, not just reselling software with your logo on it

yeah the 5k daily limit is real and honestly it's forcing everyone to level up their game. personalization is definitely the move now - you can't just blast generic templates anymore. but also worth considering that email isn't your only option... a lot of agencies i know are shifting some volume to p2p texting from actual phone numbers since it doesn't have those same restrictions and people actually open texts way more than emails anyway. the key is diversifying your channels so you're not relying on just one method that keeps getting harder to use

yeah this is actually a huge issue for anyone doing cold outreach at scale. the new sender requirements basically force you to have proper authentication (spf, dkim, dmarc) and keep bounce rates super low, which means you can't just blast emails anymore. honestly this might be a blessing in disguise because it's pushing everyone toward more personalized outreach anyway. one workaround people are finding success with is moving high-intent follow-ups to text instead of email - when someone actually responds or shows interest, texting from a real number gets way better engagement than fighting inbox filters.

honestly you're spot on about apollo's scraping being solid but yeah the campaign side can be rough. i've found the best setup is using apollo just for data then moving everything to a tool that actually handles follow-up well. the real game changer though is ditching email sequences altogether and going straight to text from real phone numbers - way higher response rates and you're not dealing with spam filters or cold email deliverability issues

yeah i feel you on that, the whole a2p thing has turned into a moving target and even when you're compliant the carriers still do whatever they want. using real numbers for follow-up is honestly underrated — people just trust it more and you're not dealing with all the api overhead or those awkward "reply STOP to opt out" footers that kill the vibe. curious how you manage it with multiple staff though, do you use any kind of system to keep convos organized or is it pretty manual?

that's awesome man, congrats on the close! it's crazy how much of a difference the right pitch structure makes when you're face to face with someone. once you nail that initial engagement part, the rest of the conversation just flows so much better